tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053142505140852136.post2849037042781723210..comments2023-07-06T15:36:50.017+01:00Comments on Get Lippie: Guest Post: Esthederm SuncareGet Lippiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16426982226471177975noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053142505140852136.post-34241757946891837692010-07-12T20:37:04.689+01:002010-07-12T20:37:04.689+01:00According to the ingredient list this contains the...According to the ingredient list this contains the common UV filters Octocrylene, Methoxydibenzoylmethane (better known as Avobenzone), and Octyl methoxycinnamate (Tinosorb OCM). These are found in a vast array of bog standard sunscreens.Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15117167487397989749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053142505140852136.post-90580953145553319802010-07-12T01:49:05.547+01:002010-07-12T01:49:05.547+01:00Let's start with the fact that a tan does not ...Let's start with the fact that a tan does not provide the protection that naturally dark skin does. Did you know that there are two different types of melanin and they offer different levels of protection from the sun? And that melanin from a tan is not placed to protect the nuclei of surrounding cells is the same way that intrinsic melanin is? The myth of the healthy tan is just that--a myth.<br /><br />If dermatologists are saying this product is fine, then it must have UV filters in it the same as any other (cheaper) sunscreen. What UV filters? What wavelengths do they protect aginst? What is the ACTUAL protection they give, as opposed to some scale they made up which is meaningless unless it is explicitedly linked to scientific data.<br /><br />The interaction between UV radiation and human skin is complex and has wide-ranging effects, including suppression of the immune system. Of course the average lay person is not, or should not, be expected to understand the entirety of that complexity (the whole vitamin D panic is now being seriously questioned, but of course there's money to be made if you can scare consumers). But if you don't understand the issues, don't promote your own theories on something as serious as sun protection.<br /><br />And let me restate: if this product is safe, it is because it contains UV filters, the some as any other sunscreen, just hidden in a load of marketing nonsense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053142505140852136.post-32254861335348252702010-07-07T23:34:07.408+01:002010-07-07T23:34:07.408+01:00I presume both Anonymous people are the same reade...I presume both Anonymous people are the same reader. So, before you dismiss it entirely, I was in no way a guinee pig. How very presumptious of you. Secondly, in my previous comment I pointed out that the dermatologists I spoke to gave it their backing. It still offers protection but instead of relying on numbers for people to figure out what protection they need, it uses skin type and sun type. <br /><br />I'm sorry you lost someone to skin cancer, it is a horrible disease, one I would not wish on anyone. And that is exactly the reason I use this cream because for me, it gives me maximum protection and I don't suffer from vitamin D deprivation because I never see sunlight. <br /><br />Just because something is different, it certainly doesn't mean it is silly waffle. <br /><br />I was by no means advocating over exposure of the sun, in fact the opposite. This was the first time I didn't burn at all. Institute D'Esthederm is a very well established, highly regarded skincare institute, I doubt they could get away with it if they were all cuckoo.<br /><br />Yours etc<br /><br />Katymakeupbykatyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06899906607779769795noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053142505140852136.post-73314780337256201022010-07-07T05:28:32.646+01:002010-07-07T05:28:32.646+01:00SPF is the measure of protection from UVB. PPD is ...SPF is the measure of protection from UVB. PPD is the measure of protection from UVA. They are specific standards.<br /><br />Sounds like this company is playing to people's ignorance for marketing purposes. Their rating system is meaningless without any data as to the level of UV filtration provided.<br /><br /> Having watched someone I love die a horrible death from skin cancer, there is no way I'd be willing to be a guinea pig for a company that uses a bunch of completely silly waffle to sell its ridiculously priced product.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053142505140852136.post-81071445012629394692010-07-06T21:16:44.673+01:002010-07-06T21:16:44.673+01:00While I have to respectfully disagree regarding th...While I have to respectfully disagree regarding the deliciousness of pink wafers (are you mad woman? They're amazing!) I agree with the other points. <br /><br />The rating system for the Estherderm, rather than SPF seems interesting. I've heard quite a lot in the press about SPFs and their effectiveness recently, so it's nice to see a product that uses another method well. <br /><br />I have fair skin that burns ridiculously easily and never tans. My cousin recommended me the Clinique body spray. It's SPF 25, which is probably the lowest I've ever used, but it seems to do the job. I survived a full 9 hour day at Alton Towers two weeks ago burn free! <br /><br />Amy<br />http://makeupnovice.blogspot.com/Amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14072244843762153260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053142505140852136.post-55073667661959732592010-07-06T20:51:58.030+01:002010-07-06T20:51:58.030+01:00Not being a downer, there's always room for co...Not being a downer, there's always room for counter arguments. However, I'm lucky enought to have a direct line to dermatologists as my Mum is a secretary for one of them. I ran this past them as we're a very sun conscious family and they agreed it gave really fool-proof protection. It IS a different take, but, from what I've been told, a safe one.<br /><br />K xmakeupbykatyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06899906607779769795noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053142505140852136.post-63752038492295559892010-07-06T20:36:59.669+01:002010-07-06T20:36:59.669+01:00Hi,
Don't mean to be a downer but I think a d...Hi, <br />Don't mean to be a downer but I think a dermatologist would argue with most of Esthederm's points. Dermatologists from websites like 'the skin guru' and ' the derm blog'(where I've learned a lot about skincare)would absolutely cringe if they read Esthederm's product info.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053142505140852136.post-66508505545744622662010-07-06T18:44:53.691+01:002010-07-06T18:44:53.691+01:00hahahhaa! That's funny and really hit home, be...hahahhaa! That's funny and really hit home, because I'm half Turkish.<br />When I was younger I had that color of tan, since I had so much time to obtain it.KeLLy aNNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10444403703566259999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053142505140852136.post-19211698151876642502010-07-06T10:52:16.695+01:002010-07-06T10:52:16.695+01:00I've heard a lot about these products lately, ...I've heard a lot about these products lately, I think I may have to pick some up.<br /><br />On another note, I really want to eat some biscuits now.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03205542401537915366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053142505140852136.post-202386080664581402010-07-06T10:22:22.324+01:002010-07-06T10:22:22.324+01:00I'm always so careful about protecting my skin...I'm always so careful about protecting my skin on holiday. In England, however, not so much... I think my general contempt for the weather makes me into some kind of tanning daredevil, 'Burn me then! Go on! I dare you!!' <br /><br />I accidently burnt my back during a picnic on the common the other day and it was so painful. Reminded me of childhood holidays where my mum couldn't use enough cream on my brother and I to protect us from the 8 hours we wanted to spend in the pool each day. We were the kids swimming with the t-shirts on. <br /><br />I'd like to try Esthederm if it wasn't so prohibitively expensive. For £38 I'd expect to have my own lotion-applying pool boy complete with cocktail fridge, magazine selection and palm leaf to fan me with.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02231470628952474264noreply@blogger.com